
The obvious shtick was being able to reroll a ton of dice, as eventually I took the Lucky feat.

Though I did start at a higher level and had access to spells even though I started rogue. When I stopped playing him, he was 4 AT Rogue/5 Divination Wizard, halfling. So, I had a character who ran a similar theme. If you want to be primarily a caster, without the melee Sneak Attack/Disengage/Spells shenanigans, then Gnome is a good choice, with either 1 level of Rogue then all Wizard, or no levels of Rogue and just the Urchin/Criminal background. Or even just go straight Wizard without Rogue levels, simply relying on your Background for some basic thief-like abilities.įor an example melee Bladesinger/Arcane Trickster, relying on a Rapier with Cunning Action Disengage boosted by Booming Blade and Shadow Blade, I'd start with a High Elf with the Booming Blade cantrip and high DEX and INT, begin with 2 levels of Rogue, and then go Rogue2/Wizard4 for 2nd level spells and an ASI, take your 3rd level of Rogue to get +1d6 Sneak Attack and Arcane Trickster features at Rogue3/Wizard4, and finally go either all Rogue or all Wizard from there, depending on whether you want to be more of a Rogue or more of a Wizard. Stick to straight Wizard after 1st level. If you plan to be primarily a caster, and don't plan to rely on high damage melee Sneak Attacks augmented by Booming Blade and Shadow Blade, then 1 level of Rogue is sufficient. Then take the next 1-2 levels of Rogue to get you to Rogue3. You'll want to push through for at least your first Wizard Subclass ability at Wizard2, and most likely 2nd level spells at Wizard 3, the ASI at Wizard 4, or maybe 3rd level Wizard spells at Wizard5, before taking more Rogue levels. If you're a High Elf or Forest Gnome, you'll at least have 1 cantrip from the start, to give you a bit of basic magical ability before you take your first Wizard level. Maybe start with 2 levels of Rogue if you plan to rely on Cunning Action's Hide/Disengage a lot from the start. Starting Rogue is ideal for skill proficiencies and beginning HP. So no Gnomes.Īs for when to multiclass, I'd start with at least 1 level of Rogue. Unfortunately, unless your DM is willing to bend the rules, it's only available to Elves. But you can use it with spells that create Finessable weapons like Shadow Blade, and spells that utilize weapon attacks like Booming Blade. Keep in mind that Sneak Attack doesn't apply to spell attacks, only DEX-based weapon attacks. (This works especially well for a primary Rogue with just a 3 level Bladesinger dip, for Bladesong and 2nd Level spells for Shadow Blade.) HELP ME ASAP COMMUNITY OF FELLOW NERDDSSSS!!!!!Īnother great route for a Wizard/Rogue is a High Elf or Half Elf Bladesinger and Arcane Trickster multiclass.īladesong is gained at Wizard2, and boosts your speed and allows you to add your INT to both AC and Concentration, which is handy for a Wizard/Rogue who plans to heading into melee for Shadow Blade + Booming Blade + Sneak Attack + Disengage strikes. I become enamored by all the shiny feats however, which feats would actually be valuable, when should I grab them, and when should I increase the stats? I would probably want Int maxed out asap and Dex fairly high? "How many levels of rogue should I go into and when?"Ĥ) Feats? - This is my biggest downfall as a player and I know it.

That being said, if the DM starts us at a higher level, I will start level 1 in Rogue and then start the Wizard path. What other schools would be viable?ģ) When to dip into Rogue? - I don't want to start level 1 as Rogue because I'd like access to the spells right away. Humans (to grab Resilient feat in Constitution), but please give me other ideas.Ģ) School of Magic - Illusion seems like an easy option for a Wiz/Thief, but I really like the RP opportunities with Transmutation. **Keep in mind I have all the published books, so everything is fair game**ġ) Race - I like Rock Gnomes (for the bonus to Int. Arcane Trickster for the Mage Hand buffs. Starting as a Wizard with Urchin background and eventually dip 3 (maybe more?) levels into Rogue. I really like the idea of a stealthy wizard. I've been DM'ing for YEARS, so I obviously have a lot of character ideas and now I have the problem of deciding which to play. I am starting a new campaign this Friday and I have an idea for a character, but I wanted everyone's input.

Hey Guys! Long time reading, first time posting.
